#1 11-01-2016 17:47:38

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No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Maybe ist a stupid question, but as far as I understand the Festival rules at Hellfest, basically anything that produces any kind of heat, is banned.

So how do the people survive.
Because from the Festivals i am used to, the first thing in the morning is to make some hot water and make some coffee and then fry up some meat, eggs, and so on.

I mean if 3/4 of the Festival has to stand in line in the morning, at the stand where they sell food/drinks, the line would be miles long;)

or do people just walk into clisson to have some breakfast

just curious how it works at Hellfest

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#2 11-01-2016 17:54:09

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Hi !

There is many solutions available during Hellfest:
- walking into clisson to have some breakfast is the best to have a good breakfast and meet nice people (and why not take a tour on Clisson)
- going to some breakfast stand on the camp is a cheaper one (and you gain time) but breakfast isn't that good.
- going to the site where food/coffee is sold (my choice as coffe and morning grindcore mix well)
- break the rule at your own risk and have something to heat your breakfast. If you choose this option be really careful as tents burn really fast.


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#3 11-01-2016 18:15:25

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

It would suck to be kicked out, and to grill inside the tent is a really stupid Idea (unless you have got one of those huge 10 people tents)

so thanks for the informations.

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#4 11-01-2016 20:03:34

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

I forget my morning hot chocolate and take into my tent some juice fruit and biscuits or brioche to share with my friends. French people don't eat egg or bacon on the morning  (well I'm sure Pok will say he does but Pok is not everybody).

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#5 11-01-2016 20:18:44

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Coffee from the campsite should be more than enough for non-French and non-Italian people anyway!And it's true the wait is not that long.

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#6 12-01-2016 03:13:45

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Alyann a écrit :

I forget my morning hot chocolate and take into my tent some juice fruit and biscuits or brioche to share with my friends. French people don't eat egg or bacon on the morning  (well I'm sure Pok will say he does but Pok is not everybody).

And I do (though not bacon, but I have a crush on eggs on toast).


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#7 12-01-2016 09:06:32

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Did someone said bacon on the morning ?  tongue
Anyway, the best breakfast will be fresh beer. You can store it between the tent and the mosquito net before sleeping. It will be fresh in the morning.
(it alosr work with vodka/orange juice, if you are that type)


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#8 12-01-2016 10:48:25

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

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Coffee from the campsite should be more than enough for non-French and non-Italian people anyway!And it's true the wait is not that long.

I have to say, the coffee on the camping site was decent! Not a small quantity you normally get in France, but a good Belgian size of coffee!

Coffee, and beer will do for me. I never eat breakfast, it'll break fast with me. big_smile


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#9 13-01-2016 09:00:05

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

So you can't even bring a small blue campingaz 'stove'?

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#10 13-01-2016 09:28:34

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

No. you can't. it is judged as dangerous.


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#11 13-01-2016 09:36:50

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Pok a écrit :

No. you can't. it is judged as dangerous.

Okay, I'll leave those at home then smile

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#12 13-01-2016 09:50:09

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

You have to know, people's tents are really packed one to the other. Ther's hardly any space to put a mini table with 4 chairs! As a result, the possible danger of fire is relatively high.
And burnign tents are a nightmare.


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#13 13-01-2016 09:59:09

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

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And burnign tents are a nightmare.

How can we dance When our earth is turning
How do we sleep While our tents are burning
tantan tann
The Time has come !

lol lol

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#14 13-01-2016 10:58:25

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Ik had 't kunnen denken.
I should've known.

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#15 13-01-2016 11:09:12

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Quark a écrit :

You have to know, people's tents are really packed one to the other. Ther's hardly any space to put a mini table with 4 chairs! As a result, the possible danger of fire is relatively high.
And burnign tents are a nightmare.


now you are scaring me a bit.
Is it really that bad.
I mean I know that Festivals put he tents Close to each other, but at least we usually had the space for a pavillion and to put up chairs and a table.

I mean if you can´t put up something for shadow, what do you do?
You can´t sit in the sun the whole time.

Or how warm is it usually around hellfest ?(I don´t know what the temperatures are that time of the year in clisson)

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#16 13-01-2016 14:55:25

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Quark a écrit :

You have to know, people's tents are really packed one to the other. Ther's hardly any space to put a mini table with 4 chairs! As a result, the possible danger of fire is relatively high.
And burnign tents are a nightmare.

I understand, but at basically every festival they try to pack as many tents/people in a field as possible. So either its really REALLY bad the way tents are placed here OR its a bit overreacting.

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#17 13-01-2016 14:57:45

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Loveless85 a écrit :
Quark a écrit :

You have to know, people's tents are really packed one to the other. Ther's hardly any space to put a mini table with 4 chairs! As a result, the possible danger of fire is relatively high.
And burnign tents are a nightmare.

I understand, but at basically every festival they try to pack as many tents/people in a field as possible. So either its really REALLY bad the way tents are placed here OR its a bit overreacting.

The tents are not placed by anyone but their owners and yes, it means ANARCHY  tongue but not an overreaction, try and set a tent on fire under dry weather and you will see by yourself.

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#18 13-01-2016 15:04:35

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Angrist a écrit :
Quark a écrit :

You have to know, people's tents are really packed one to the other. Ther's hardly any space to put a mini table with 4 chairs! As a result, the possible danger of fire is relatively high.
And burnign tents are a nightmare.


now you are scaring me a bit.
Is it really that bad.
I mean I know that Festivals put he tents Close to each other, but at least we usually had the space for a pavillion and to put up chairs and a table.

I mean if you can´t put up something for shadow, what do you do?
You can´t sit in the sun the whole time.

Or how warm is it usually around hellfest ?(I don´t know what the temperatures are that time of the year in clisson)

I think I can best give 2 examples.
Let's take the biggest fest in, let's say, Germany and France.
In Wacken (75,000 visitors per day) people have about 23 camp sites at their disposal, leaving a bit more space. Furthermore, parking your car next to your tent is possible, making it a bit more possible to create more space.
Hellfest has 4 (5) different camp sites for ±55,000 visitors, thus no cars.

And as said before, on both sides, set up is anarchy. Pavilions are hardly seen.  Most people tend to go to the metal corner, under the trees there.


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#19 13-01-2016 15:23:02

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Loveless85 a écrit :

So either its really REALLY bad the way tents are placed here OR its a bit overreacting.


First time at Hellfest no?  big_smile The camping is something between full Chaos and complet anarchy. Have a look here wink


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#20 13-01-2016 19:39:59

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Angrist a écrit :
Quark a écrit :

You have to know, people's tents are really packed one to the other. Ther's hardly any space to put a mini table with 4 chairs! As a result, the possible danger of fire is relatively high.
And burnign tents are a nightmare.


now you are scaring me a bit.
Is it really that bad.
I mean I know that Festivals put he tents Close to each other, but at least we usually had the space for a pavillion and to put up chairs and a table.

I mean if you can´t put up something for shadow, what do you do?
You can´t sit in the sun the whole time.

Or how warm is it usually around hellfest ?(I don´t know what the temperatures are that time of the year in clisson)

last year : 30 C
2014 : really hot like 35 C
2013 : more rainy, I would say ~22 C

When it's that warm well, you move under trees or go to the bar roll and some time you watch concerts even if the sun is really hot tongue


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#21 14-01-2016 09:00:56

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

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Angrist a écrit :

Or how warm is it usually around hellfest ?(I don´t know what the temperatures are that time of the year in clisson)

last year : 30 C
2014 : really hot like 35 C
2013 : more rainy, I would say ~22 C

When it's that warm well, you move under trees or go to the bar roll and some time you watch concerts even if the sun is really hot tongue


2007 was rainny


Or you can go to Altar (death, grind,..), Temple (black, pagan, folk,..) or the Valley (Stoner, doom, fuzz,..). These scene are huge tents whith good musics.  tongue


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#22 14-01-2016 16:15:10

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Pok a écrit :
Loveless85 a écrit :

So either its really REALLY bad the way tents are placed here OR its a bit overreacting.


First time at Hellfest no?  big_smile The camping is something between full Chaos and complet anarchy. Have a look here wink

Yep, but that picture doesnt differ from Rock Werchter, Pinkpop, Lowlands, Rock am Ring, Pukkelpop, Graspop, whatever other festivals I've been, and you are allowed a small Campingaz cannister there.

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#23 14-01-2016 16:19:10

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Which makes me think the French law (and not an overreaction of the HF organisators) may be more stringent about this kind of issues...

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#24 14-01-2016 17:11:19

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Dura lex, ced lex   wink


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#25 14-01-2016 17:19:23

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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Duracel said Lex ? is this a kinf of kryptonite ?


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You should better be INSIDE Durex than far from dura lex, Duralex, Duracel...  tongue  lol


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Re : No fires, no grill,no cooker, no generator, how do people survive ? ;)

Loveless85 a écrit :
Pok a écrit :
Loveless85 a écrit :

So either its really REALLY bad the way tents are placed here OR its a bit overreacting.


First time at Hellfest no?  big_smile The camping is something between full Chaos and complet anarchy. Have a look here wink

Yep, but that picture doesnt differ from Rock Werchter, Pinkpop, Lowlands, Rock am Ring, Pukkelpop, Graspop, whatever other festivals I've been, and you are allowed a small Campingaz cannister there.

Bij GMM mocht je ook geen BBQ's meenemen. (I presume you're Dutch, seen on your list of festivals, all (apart from RaR) in Dutch speaking area) Dat er mensen zijn die dat doen, moeten ze zelf weten.


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Le forum s'internationalise à toute vitesse... On va ouvrir un topic en Néerlandais  lol  Quark fera la traduction si nécessaire !  wink


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ZZ chr a écrit :

Le forum s'internationalise à toute vitesse... On va ouvrir un topic en Néerlandais  lol  Quark fera la traduction si nécessaire !  wink

Oops! yikes

On GMM you couldn't bring BBQs as well. (english part)That there are people who do that, that's their choice.

Ça va comme ça ZZ chr ? devil


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Mieux, en anglais, mieux...  wink  devil


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